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Recently, we were raided in our classes by a team of Council Members. And for what? Wearing LIVESTRONG bands(and not to forget those fake ones) and O-Rings. So that means its not allowed to wear it in school. None of the students were happy with such a thing. What do you think about it?



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Topic Discussion 1: LIVESTRONG     Recently, we were raided in our classes by a team of Council Members. And for what? Wearing LIVESTRONG bands(and not to forget those fake ones) and O-Rings. So that means its not allowed to wear it in school. None of the students were happy with such a thing. What do you think about it?

well i thing its kinda ok to wear the livestrong coz thts for the benefit of cancer patients....but the other stuff really needn't be worn coz its skool....and if they were to allow accesories like tht.....students could be askin for a lot more......

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As far as using the livestrong bands in school are concerned, i strongly feel that since you hav already bought the band and the money has already gone for a good cause, if contributing to the cause was ur motive, then its already been done. then why wear these bands? ok you may say it is to spread an awareness about cancer but frankly, as a council member i hav seen loads of people who hardly know anything about cancer wearing these bands just for the heck of it. and more people wear all the other colour bands than the original yellow live strong bands. how is our council supposed to keep track of all this? you must rememebr that we are only a part of you'll and our jobs become way tougher when the students rebel against simple rules laid down by the school. i seriously feel that the students are prone to misuse the freedom if we allow one type of bands and will use all the colours including the black nike ones. you can wear the yellow bands anywhere you want and spread the awareness, though i doubt that cancer needs more awareness. there are diseases like AIDS and all which surely need far more awareness created. Anyways these are just my personal views.


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LIVESTRONG BANDS CONFISTICATED  WHAT DA Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!


cmon they are gud thingz! itz like a stylish way to donate money to charity


 



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Topic Discussion 1: LIVESTRONG     Recently, we were raided in our classes by a team of Council Members. And for what? Wearing LIVESTRONG bands(and not to forget those fake ones) and O-Rings. So that means its not allowed to wear it in school. None of the students were happy with such a thing. What do you think about it?


well if studentz r seen wearin dose fake onez...dey shud be taken away..but da Original nike onez shud be allowed. our duties do not end by just donating dat 1$ for da band but to wear dem so dat Cancer Patients can feel da whole world is wid dem {includin ISM students} !!!!!!


and by da way i have seen quite a few cuncil members wearing them too u know



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well i dont seriously think tat ism students really wear tat band for awareness.......


its really good tat u buying it an all for charity...... but then as 1 of the teachers said... u dont need to flaunt it around...........n tats definitely not awareness..........


well tats all wat i got to say...



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In a opinion i dnt think dere is any harm in wearin livestrong bands or o-rings. Its like big deal n if d student council was soo woried about oders wearin it ,they shud set n example n themselves not wear it.think about it.

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Topic Discussion 1: LIVESTRONG     Recently, we were raided in our classes by a team of Council Members. And for what? Wearing LIVESTRONG bands(and not to forget those fake ones) and O-Rings. So that means its not allowed to wear it in school. None of the students were happy with such a thing. What do you think about it?


i think livestrong is great n do not see any harm in wearing it man........!   But the school! Can't understand why they do not allow us to wear it???


 



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I totally agree with Anonymous and Pranami. There is no harm i wearing them. the council mmbers wear them.



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livestrong...... im sad they dont low u to wear it there but it rockz here in Ny.

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awwwwwwwwwww......................c'mon


u guyz talkin' abt awareness?


how many of them out there wearing livestrong bands actually truly care abt spreading awareness?hasn't it become more of a fashion must-have?


and internationally speaking,hasn't it become a commerial net?the original cause is lost in the easy cash business.a lot of fake bands lying round there.so how do we know if that $1 reaches the fund?


ponder on....


ps no offence to anyone.



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Well datz quite simple!!! Just Buy Original Bands only!!! u can confirm da Originality buy checkin da Nike Site abt Livestrong bands or jus buy these bands from reputed Shops only!! datz how u can confirm dat da money goes for a good cause. Though itz  fashion statement it also carries an awareness stuff wid it.


 


It Wud Be good if a Teacher Drops in by da forumns and post thier ideas abt dis (VARUN ARE U LISTENING?????)



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Hey Everybody,


 


Pretty impressed on seeing how things are going. Especially after Lidia contradicted other girls on the LIVESTRONG views. Anyway, this is to inform you all that this discussion has stretched much longer than expected. This has hapenned because it is the first discussion. But don't worry, because the last date for this discussion is going to be next Thursday, i.e. 22nd September. So please keep posting until then.


 


Also to inform you'll, this forum will change from 'Weekly Discussion' to 'Bi-Weekly Discussion' as people need time to post their views.


 


Tell you family, friends, neighbours etc. about the site and make them post on this discussion and the ones to follow. So enjoy your surfing on WhatsUpISM.com.


 


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goshhhh.......some one explain it 2 me how wearin livestrong bands is harmful 2 anyone on dis earth?????????????????

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Guys does it matter we r still wearing it so let them do wat they want we will do wat we want



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perhaps if you would kindly mention the site specifically i'll think abt checkin' it out.

and you agree that it is a fashion statement.....
at least in our school.
oh yeah it carries awareness wid it ....
it makes students who don't wear the bands aware of how "uncool" they look...
well,at least it makes them buy the bands and that would mean a $ for the fund,wouldn't it?

.....if they buy an original one that is....

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It is obviously not harmful (as in causing potential danger or worry). It is basically about controlling the popularity of such a fashion (which is necessary). At least from the view of the our Staff, Livestrong bands are distracting. A fraction of them believe that it could encourage students to continue wearing more bands and other fashion accessories. Which is true.


However, taking in account the contradiction of this idea by the students, Livestrong bands could be considered appropriate to wear only for a specific period. And that period is over, by the way (since these Bands are more of a commercial profit than actual donations). I'll agree with Lidia there.


Kevin, things are completely different in the United States. To come to think of it, you don't have school uniforms; you have a lot of freedom about your appearance. This can be good only up to a certain extent. I was convinced finally that such freedom could potentially create a social imbalance. I believe that at present we are given enough freedom (at ISM). Livestrong bands and other fashion accessories are by no means a neccesity; neither do they indicate your socioeconomic status (which is of less importance in an environment like a school).


Conclusion: Livestrong bands are not necessary. The primary reason being that their period of actual value has been expired. They no longer represent a charity organization! It's not about being updated with fashion trends. I don't accuse them of it -- the media is equally to blame. In all this chaos, the primary purpose of schooling tends to be ignored. I think schooling is a very broad process which includes getting to know what's right and what's not. It includes gaining an experience to adjust to the society. It includes gaining an experience in the vast field of capitalism and business. It includes knowing how to contribute to a society. It's not about fashion or anything parallel to that -- certainly not.


 


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By the way Varun, nice topic. Let's hope we have even more competitive debates in the future!



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lookie, every one of you is absolutely right. the council may enforce the laws as much as they want but the fact remains that a lot of people still do wear livestrong bands and o-rings on the sly. they take it off every time they c one of u guys. i dont really know what the school has against friendship bands and o-rings and livestrongs. seriously!! its just a fad 4 heavens sake! its not like we're hacking our hemlines to way above the knees or totally changing the uniform. 



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whoa, azure i so totally agree...


keeping aside the controversial livestrong bands......


O-RINGS...


the absolutely, positively silliest objects that has risen by a slip of fate in the world of Fashion...i seriously fail to understand the purpose of them...little pieces of black rubber encircling ur wrists....


what's the point? do they keep you safe from evil intergalactical space aliens?or do they help you score excellent grades in exams?or do they simply help you rise into elite ism society?


at least the livestrong bands had an excuse,"mum,the money goes towards charity...isn't that good?so can i have one?"


what do say abt o-rings?"dad may i buy these entirely useless and therefore pointless circular black bands?i wouldn't dream of bothering you but all my friends have three each and im askin' only for one..."???????????????????


ps-ameen_sep22 i still haven't got the website..... 


varun-looking forward to more such highly controversial ism stuff... 



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Topic Discussion 1: LIVESTRONG     Recently, we were raided in our classes by a team of Council Members. And for what? Wearing LIVESTRONG bands(and not to forget those fake ones) and O-Rings. So that means its not allowed to wear it in school. None of the students were happy with such a thing. What do you think about it?


My teachers say, its good to donate for a cause but not to flaunt around wid it.. ever wondered where the $1 donation for the fake ones must be goin'??? Thnz.. Taz all I gotta say!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 LOOK PEOPLE I DO TOO HAVE A LIVESTRONG BAND, BUT I DONT WEAR IT TO SCHOOL OBVIOUSLY BCAUSE OF THE COUNCIL ( THE BAND IS ORIGINAL), BUT WHY DOESNT ONE THINK THAT " HOW MANY LIVESTRONG BANDS CAN THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS TAKE, 10 OR 40. WHAT WILL THEY DO WITH 1200 BANDS, IF EACH STUDENT OF THE SENIOR SCHOOL WEARS A BAND.


IF WE ALL THINK IT IS NECESSARY TO WEAR ONE , THEN WE SHALL ALL WEAR IT OR ELSE NO NEED. WHAT WE NEED IS TO THINK ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NOT AGAINST THEM.



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shalaka wrote:


if varun doesnt approve ma previous post i wil kill him


Hey Shalaka,


I have approved that post of yours but after editing it. You know why.


 



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shalaka, i m forced to totally disagree


the school has nothing against o-rings and livestrong bands...


but it does have a reason for not allowing the bands to school...


what is the purpose of wearin uniforms to school?the whole point is to hav an orderly system-don't u think tht our uniform gives us a feeling of being an ISMite?


the bands don't do any harm and school loses nothing if we wear them or don't...


but we being human beings and in our teens will soon be asking for much more....the school obviously wants no extra pressure from the students wanting to dump the uniform next...


and i have heard certain ppl addressing these bands as "distractive"...its just a passing fad and will soon begone 'fore you can say "lance armstrong"...and we crazy teens will be after the next hottest thing thats in...!


 


ps - abt friendship bands, if i remember rightly, we were  given time to wear them.anyway i believe that its better to have one true friend than to flaunt around the symbols of friendship of thousands of thousands of acquantainces...


so all my frenz out there you can stop expecting bands from me nxt year onwards...!!!    


 


 



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i suppose lidia does not da context of question raised by the topic!!!


it is being asked what is da gr8 big deal abt wearing printed plain yellow rubber bandz to skool?!! is it so offensive dat wen a council member see's one confisticatez it? (of course they dont do that!! sum of them r quite kool abt it) yeah but i wud like to side lidia for those O ringz as thier utterly useless.  da debate is not yet over and will only be over if a couple of teacherz da V.P or da Principal himself add a Peice of thier mind on da Forum.


P.S da website is as simple as that. www.nike.com or www.lancearmstrongfoundation.com so thats dare.



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WEBMASTERS VERDICT


Before I give the 'Webmasters Verdict', which is an official end to the discussions taking place here, I would like to thank all of you who visited my website and the forum, and especially those who took time to post their valuable comments. This gave the website a great start.


Getting down to LIVESTRONG BANDS & O-RINGS. A great, intellectual and educative discussion indeed. Some of you'll posted stuff full of sense. Lot of diverse opinions were seen throughout the entire discussion. There are two sides of the coin for sure.


The discussion began on a very positive note with some few posts talking about the good and bad of wearing LIVESTRONG bands. A sign of maturity. But as it progressed, it seemed like most of the members were posting stuff thinking about only one side of the story. It appears that the reasons for confiscations were not thought about at all. Nikita was very right by saying - "if they were to allow accesories like tht.....students could be askin for a lot more......". This is very true and no one can deny this fact. Also, the Council member who posted his/her views was justified by posting that "some people who dont care about this awareness campaign too, wear it" and "if you'll are so concerned, what do you about other diseases like AIDS etc. This does not mean that school does not respect your feelings towards suffering Cancer Patients. As most of the members justified this point, that these bands need not be worn in school as this is misuse of freedom and can be worn outside. Ameen mentioned "well if studentz r seen wearin dose fake onez...dey shud be taken away..but da Original nike onez shud be allowed." No doubt that the truth is that many people wear fake ones. But if the Council and the school start allowing "ONLY LIVESTRONG" bands. Dont you think its highly impractical for them to come and observe each band and check whether its original or not. We also do not care what are the rules and regulations in U.S. schools. We are studying in a disciplined Indian school and need to live upto its expectations. Yes Lidia, it is absolutely true that, they have now become a fashion statement. Surely, these bands are not harmful to the world. But our school is a world of its own, where you live according to the school traditions. Yes Abs, your right, people still wear it. But there is a big difference in what we are expected to do in school, and what we do. It is not that, the teachers do not want the students to do noble causes, but they do not accept its form when it comes to Show-biz. I really appreciated the schools decision to allow the students to wear friendship bands on Friendship Days and Rakhis on Raksha Bandhan. So that means, there is a limit to everything, and we often tend to cross it.


Please do not have a grudge against the Council Members for coming and confiscating your bands. You have voted them in, and I think they are doing their responsibilty very well and do what they are told to. I respect them for that. Yes Lidia, it is true that we wear uniforms also as a part of equality and follow the system of the school where we study. Discussions like these open up new ideas. Ameen, your right that an opinion of an elderly is obviously necessary for such a topic.


Let me say once again, no one in our school has any hatred towards Lance Amstrong. We all appreciate him for his amzing talent and care for all Cancer patients suffering. But such things are only mere commercial promotional things. They are promoting their popularity, along with a motion towards a noble cause, no doubt.


I was recently watching a television porgramme on Zee TV whose moral was that when you make a donation, you should not tell people about it as it is a noble cause. Then why wearing these bands to schools and making it a point of disgust when being taken away.


I agree it is cool, punky and stylish to wear it. But at the end, the discussion has no end. The decision is the school's.


One more very important aspect of this discussion. I am writing this because I want to make this very clear to everbody on this website. I had number of posts critisizing the student council for wearing low socks and wearing these bands. They are aware of their responsibilities very well and obey them. And please note this, NO COUNCIL MEMBERS WEAR THESE BANDS. THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. 


I hope you take this verdict in a very positive way.


 


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Varun Arora


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P.S.- This discussion gets over today and the thread will close preventing further posting. If you have more views and queries, email them to me at futuregenious@gmail.com and I will personally reply to all of them.


 


 



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