Topic Discussion 2: RE-EXAMINATIONS

futuregenious · Web Guru

Topic Discussion 2: RE-EXAMINATIONS

ameen_sep22 · Guru

well

i dunno da no. pass or fail but by da statistics u provided i can say dat if the school had to give them another chance to pass and continue normal school and only 25% passed then the da papers shud have been kept a bit easier to allow more ppl to pass.

from resources from ISWK, i have found out dat itz da same case wid thier students but den who carez abt ISWK!!

well i think da re-test paperz shud have been a bit easier than the actual examinationz to allow the students to pass. yeah but u cannot put da blame on the school if those studentz take it lightly thinking dat it wud be a very easy re-test since the school has to pass them.

-- Edited by futuregenious at 21:19, 2005-09-22

3vilUtion · Sep 23, 2005

The Re-Examination's ....

as many of ma friends were appearing in dem... i do have a littl info on it..

my personal perspective on the whole thing is dat, the school had just kept the examinations out of peer pressure from parents and commitee members...

and hence the school did not want the students to pass them in these examzz... they set a quite tough paper ( remember ppl who hav failed in da normal xamz were appearin..) ... and when seen the corrections also were quite strict as they gave the reason of the boards in the next year...

and hence when the results came ... as far as i know only 1-2 passed in each commerce and science streamz ....

that is like so bad...

and the poor ppl who studied quite hard were disappointed and heartbroken

in the end i dunno y the school havta frustrate the students so much... i mean its not dat dey want them to do better in 12th but sometimes teachers do give marks as grace nd stuff... so its not dat dey can't pass them...

but god knows y dey do such a thing....

-- Edited by futuregenious at 00:10, 2005-09-25

kevin · Member

Yeah, great topic to start with. One of my frend told me bout the Exam rules n all that. I think that each student deserves to get a chance gen insted of wastin his full year. one more chance that's it. Then gen if ya fail, it's up to ya.....but 1 chance is granted.....

shalaka · Senior Member

well, i dont really know. all i can say is, students should study hard enough to pass the first time itself ( i noe its very easy for me to say) but if they dont pass the first time, well, they know the difficulty level of the papers, they've already studied the whole thing once, shouldn't they find it easy to pass the second time round? it depends. hey, how much time do they give between the main exams and the reexams? and if a student fails in 2 or 3 subjects, does he have to rewrite exams 4 the subjects which he failed, or does he have to rewrite exams of all subjects? do let me know

lidia · Senior Member

for a change, i agree wid all of them.

a chance to pass should be given to all those who fail.i agree with kevin there.an entire year in a students life gets wasted.which is bad.and maybe just maybe a few of them will have the common sense to realise their"folly" and study and pass.

by the statistics u gave 25% passed in the retests.so isn't the retest good for the 25% who did manage to pass?

abt the many who did not pass, (god help them all!)isn't being given another chance not enough?if the others cud pass why can't they?

and the entire concept of retests is pointless if the retests happens to be tougher than the actual exams.hello,aren't the students writing the exam coz they dint manage to pass ion the actual ones?

so in my opinion reexams can be good for students who decide to think a bit abt their future,utterly pointless for students who don't care and a waste of time and energy for the school if they decide to keep it tougher than usual.

and no, schools aren't being too lenient if they decide to hold retests.

dark_invision · Member

i think only someone who has lost an year can tell u that how much value does re-examination have for him/her!

I personally think flunking people in 11th and making them repeat doesnt mean at all that he wil do well in 12th..i have seen many such examples who flunked but still are flunking..in the end it a waste of an yr with no end-result.

2ndly flunked people are openly discouraged by teachers. They are kept away from others(studious students) so that they may not spoil them..in da end it destabalizes the chile with full pressure from parents and discouragement from teachers.. what else they need..it such a catalystic combination for a suicide in our skl...i think teachers jus dunt understand the mental pressure of the students..

if u can mention one techer who will like his good stuious students to mingle with flunkers!!

lastly when students who have no choice but to leave the skl or repeat are given pass certificates so that they can go to india and pay some money to get into some skl!!so whats the use of them flunking him anyways if he has to go to india and get addmission in 12th

well other comments are also welcome i ll be waiting to hear from varun!!

shalaka · Senior Member

dark invision, i totally do not agree. i get pretty good marks, and my class teacher made me sit with a guy who flunks, so that i could help him out ( not that i am doing so, he bugs me like hell). lots of teachers do that. just bcoz a kid flunks, it dont mean dat he's bad company

dark_invision · Member

many teachers feel flunkers as a burden on them to handle them...cuz of behaviur problems.. n all dat

btw did any1 one of u see the disciple sheet..where teachers have to fill in details of students who dont behave in class.....(ps:=even if u get good marks ur not left alone !!!!)lol€

@shalaka

i jus dun wanna name any1 here so i resistricted from saying the name..btw tht must be a gr8 teacher..we want more such teachers who help out flunkers not simply blame them for someone else's downfall jus cuz they are frendz wid them

-- Edited by futuregenious at 22:07, 2005-10-08

youngtata invasions · Oct 3, 2005

yessssssss,

we do need re-exams

it is not fair to waste the lives gud dudes.re-exams r a must.listen all make mistakes in life but there is should be a chance for a fellow to imprve himslf .if was the v.p i wud allow re-exams.

only thing is that everyone shud get a chance.

moreover the decision on passing shud be taken seriously but it must be considerate.

plzz i luv the school to have nil failures

rock

deadlydivs · Queen

Another topic to discuss!!! Goody goody!

Ok anywayss.....Re examinations...

They are definitely needed for the students who flunked the first time...but as Lids said....Whats the use of having them if they prove to be tougher than the actual exam????

Seeing that there are around 40 failures in 9th itself and knowing a fair few of them...after seeing their marks it is clear most of them are gonna flunk again...what happens if you fail twice?...Teachers should be more lenient to these students..but from what i have observed they are always being picked on...I know I know, sum of u will say th teacher is trying to help da student...or is the teacher actually humiliating him? He may not think so, but seing the number of "gundas" we have,,, the failures are definitely gonna get ragged....I think that a seperate class should be devised for ultra weak students, not to humiliate them but to give them more help...

I have said my views. And I think the portion in skool tests should be reduced...or atleast, we should have more ime to study...Our first clas tests just got over and now we have been dumped with another test! Come on people! give us a break!

futuregenious · Web Guru

WEBMASTERS VERDICT

Here comes an end to another amazing and interesting discussion.

It was relevant as it concerns the life and career of students.

I was pretty impressed with the point of view of all who posted. Everything made sense. On one hand, you have to be considerate to all those who missed out and on the other, we can't forget the schools efforts to make the students pass.

The agregate pass percentage for Std. 11 students is 33%. This looks small but one has to put in some efforts to get to this. Making things very clear, out of about 50 students who had given the re-examinations, only 3 from the Science group and about 5-7 from the Commerce group managed to pass. Now, we cannot say that all the people who were unable to make it last year, were 'gundaas' or uninterested people. The lot included those kind of people also whose general IQ was low, and even on putting their best, could not make it to the passing mark. I personally knew few of them.

Yes, its true that the level of the papers was not easy. It was as competitive as the normal examinations. But why should it be easy? The students who were attempting these examinations were given sufficient time for these examinations. And not to forget, this wasn't their first attempt. 3vilUtion, I agree that the students were heartbroken, but they should have been metally prepared for this. If they have been given another oppurtunity, they should utilize it to their best potential. Another thing. The school has been quite lenient. The CBSE board portions are obviously the most competitive in this world. So basically, its not in the hands of the school.

Shalaka, for your information, the students write only the subject in which they did not pass in the year. So that means, one subject and lesser pressure. I am not sure as to how much time they give for preparation, because it was an experiment done last year and don't know what the school plans for this time. Maybe, this discussion may have a little push on them.

We surely cannot generalize this topic until and unless we have the results of many re-examinations. Maybe, the following batches have better results to show. I agree with most of youll saying that the re-examinations give an oppurtunity to all those who are keen to study better. They can probably work harder the next time if the fail to make the best out of this chance.

The majority of teachers of our school have been very supportive and will continue to be because they also want them to succeed.

All the students have their own level of potential, and lets wait and watch how they use such chances.

At present, I have no idea as to how the school feels about this, but I hope that this very + positive discussion can make them think again.

Varun Arora

Webmaster - www.whatsupism.com

-- Edited by futuregenious at 23:21, 2005-10-08